Sunday, January 22, 2012

Shipra Sun Tower


I aS completely exhausted by now. Yet the agent pushed me to see Shipra Sun Tower. It's inside Shipra sun city near to the gate entry just next to Shipra mall. Shipra are really good developers who make solid buildings is what the impression I had. I also knew that land if Shipra sun city was given for free by GDA to Shipra to develop the area. It's to be noted that Indirapuram had nly Shipra sun city as major.construction in its initial days.

Anyway coming to the society. I eneteted into it without Ny entry anywhere. No guard asked. I think they are statues from madame tussads museum. They look real but not do real job. :p  so concluded that security is not good. Anyone can enter anytime.

The flat was on 10th floor. Common area was quite small as opposed to the way done by current developers. Anyway we entered into the flat. It was 1550sq ft but wow what spacious rooms and lobby and kitchen. I guess that's due to GDA collaboration where loading on flats is just 10% as opposed to around 20% in new societies.

The coat this flat was quoted to be.around 62lac. Keeping in view the location of the society and size of the rooms this seemed to be perfect.

But you everything comes with a rider of either high coat or bad quality. I was amazed to see the high level of seepage in the flat. Whole kitchen wall was seeped and then there was extensive seepage in bathroom walls. Both the walls are common to the hall cum dining room. So it looked quite bad. The seepage had destroyed the complete wooden flooring.

With all this.bad, there I went into the final room. Room size was good Nd the mist beautiful part was the glass wall. From 10th floor it looked more amazing.

The balcony opened into an open area from where you can see Shipra mall too. The view looked fab.

I was  happy to have found one good house by now. Donno why was I ignoring the seepage. I was thinking that seepage can be controlled by looking for root cause.

Finally I along with the agent was going down to ground floor. One uncle entered the lift and he simply blasted off the society. He told that seepage is a big problem in this society. Every flat has that and its incurable because its the construction defect by Shipra. Apart from this security is another issue rest everything is fine. Hehehe.

Then I found a lady who was tenant in the same society and she also mentioned these 2 issues only.

I think this society is also struck out from my list.

C'Mon Shipra. You a big name. Why don't you hire good architects and good engineers.

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Jaipuria sunrise, indirapuram, ghaziabad


After Kyoto super gadenia and niho Scottish I went ahead to see Jaipuria Sunrise apartment which is just opposite to Shipra Suncity. The location of the society is perfect. It's very near to Shanti Gopal Hospital and just next to Jaipuria Mall, Ghaziabad. The society has its own market as well. Although it looked quite creepy and too crowded with lots of hoardings and unmanaged car parking, but you certainly have a market. Hey do not get confused by this description. The.entry into the society is from another aide and market is on the other side.

I visited this society while it was under construction. It looked promising but then due to some reason I did not take any apartment. Later I came to know that the builder has allegedly  cheated the residents and has not got all the approvals. As a result of which the electricity supply from Vikki vibhag was not provided. The residents were forced to live on gender power whose cost was 12per unit. One of my friends lived here so I came to know that this problem was there but now it has been solved. My friends bro has a house of his own in this society so you can believe this.

Anyway coming to appt description. The appt is located at a high level conpred to the road. This is good. Security seemed to be quite good. My broker had to lie a lot to get into the appt to show us the flat. Infact he got caught too in next 10min but anyway we have had a look into the flat.

The flat was 3+1 and was  around 1850sq ft in size. Rooms were big master bedroom had a box room too. You might be wondering why do I always look for box room. If you do not have it then only you will be able to appreciate its presence. :)

There 3 toilets. Kitchen size was quite good. I did not feel suffocated inside it.

Now the.best thing about this flat was the +1 room. This was kind of guest room or servant room with attached toilet. The.entry to this room is separate. It's no WU connected from inside to the rest of the house. People have got.a. door cut out to coonect this room. You have your maid stay here without interfering into rest of the house. If you wish you can.rent out this room to any bachelor. It should fetch atleast 4-5k rent. Not bad income :)

Now you must be wondering about the cost of the house. It was 66lac quoted by the agent. But he immediately mentioned that its negotiable. I think it can come for a little lesser.  Please note there was no woodwork done. It was raw apartment.

Overall the flat looked good.

Now comes the bad part, and that's the reason why the flat wA at lower cost compared to other societies. The society seems to have been abandoned by the developer in between. The stair areas.were not done. The lift looked like to have been beaten by some instruments and there did not seem any sign of lift maintenance.

The building has a central park with a club in between. The club has its own gym.

I am not sure about rest of the things of the society. I think there should be 2+1 flats as well.

I am not sure why Jaipuria does not complete the apartments. Same is the case I am seeing with crossings republik Jaipuria building. Dont know what their problem is.

My conclusion is...if you have money its a good appt to go for provided you believe in fate and think that some day the remaining finishing will be done.

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Niho Scottish, indirapuram, ghaziabad flat buyer's view


So my journey continued and I went with my agent to niho Scottish. Donno but I strongly feel some connection with this society. I simply love the 5-6floor buildings surrounding a central park. Everything in marble - be it stairway or reception area or the common area just outside the flats. This shows that the builder certainly had something fantastic on mind. But as it happens in India this society got into troubles as the builder had this society built on disputed land. This resulted in Govt not allowing registry of the flats. I just cannot understand what do the govt agencies do when such a massive structure is under construction. They come to act only after the common man has put in his hard earned money into these kind of things. Anyway I get emotional when such things happen. Let's move on and see what my observations have been about niho Scottish.

As already told you, the society layout somehow attracts me but the road to reach niho is under construction. Please ne informed GDA (ghaziabad development authority) is worst at work execution so please do not be surprised if even in 2013 you see the state of the road same A it is rightnow. The positive is, NH58 is being built just adjacent to the society. Again this info was given by my agent. You know how truthful they are. But I could certainly see lots if construction activities going in that area.

As soon as you enter into the society you are greeted by an enormous gate.and then a globe kind if marble stone giving you a feeling of awe. But the pathetic state of painting and dusty walkways showed the RWA is not much active. May be this is because of the tussle between the builder and the residents.

You go further and you are welcomed by something under construction in the Haden which I referred above. This is in almost 1/4 of the.garden space. The broker said its club under construction. Again agents can be dodgy...you never know if its a resentual building coming up :). But the structure was kind of club :)

The agent took me to a sample flat in the building where there was just 1 lift and looked like the building has still not got completed. Man its been almost 4-5 years and yet things are not complete. This is horrible. Nut you know what, I entered into that 1785 sq ft 3 bhk flat and immediately fell in love with the large room and excellent finish of walls big large doors. Adding to my amazement was a box.room in the master bedroom. Wow best structure I have seen till now.

The coat of the flat was 62 lac. Good for this flat size and society.

Still land problem was playing on my mind, so the broker told me its solved and registries are happening. He was very confident that he will get the flat registered if we buy it. Man these brokers have lost all faith of mine. They are a bunch of crooks looking to fool people and make money. To make me believe that he is truthful he says he too has a pent house in niho and I can anytime catch him. If I would have been a bahubali then I would have not worried :) it would have been him worried.

Then we saw another flat 1465 sq ft if I remember correctly. It had okay size rooms. Costing 52 lac negotiBle.

2bhk was in 42 lac range.

I am liking that 1785 sq ft deal but doubts are:

1. Land issue is resolved completely or partially

2. When will the road connecting to main part of indirapuram will get completed.

3. Looks like RWA is quite bad. May be I am wrong.



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Saturday, January 21, 2012

Indirapuram - Jyoti Super Gardenia - first hand account of a flat buyer

Media, Internet, Review websites everyone is always showing advertisements from the builders but no one tells about the reality of the realty world. The Real Estate Agents and the builder both keep telling about the best features of the projects and knowingly hide the problems. You are God until you have paid anything to them. As soon as you pay they are the monsters who are after your hard earned money.

This blog is just an attempt to give first hand information which I and some more people have found about each project and society.

Anyway, coming to point. Today I went in search of a flat to buy. Following are my observations and findings. May be someone can comment and help me choose a good property or may be my search be of some help to someone.

Jyoti Super Gardenia:
It was 9th Floor which I saw. The building is 11 floors so not an issue of getting a top floor and getting cooked in summers. The rooms were okay kind of spacious but the dining area was quite small. Kitchen was also smaller than what I expected. Dining area was negligible. It was good enough for a 5ft table only. My 6ft Dining table would be just too big for that place.

What I liked about the flat was, it was quite airy and the terrace added to the feel-good factor :) Location wise the society was rightly located. The road in-front of the society was quite wide. On the other side of the road is Exotica East Square. Just wow. It looked beautiful but the agent told that the flats over there are around 1500 sq ft. and cost somewhere between 70-75lac. Unfortunately out of my range :(

Gardenia is costing 55 lac and that too negotiable. I think the owner would sell it for 54lac or so.

The society and flats are typical Gardenia type - i.e. within middle class range at the same time ordinary kind of design.

Mostly Open Parking is available with the flats.

One most striking thing was the letter on display from the RWA President showing the current status of the accounts of the society. The statement said that the RWA has not paid INR 48K of electricity bill, and 1.5lac to the Lift maintenance company and few more things totaling to 3.5lac of debt in books of RWA.
This statement shows that RWA is not functional the way it should be. May be I am wrong. We can take this information positively too - considering RWA to be transparent in its operations.

I have learnt one most important thing. Go for a society which has good RWA else basic facilities are just not available and living in the society becomes a nightmare.

References from other websites:
http://www.jyotisuper.com/gardina.html

http://www.consumercomplaints.in/complaints/jyoti-super-gardenia-indirapuram-indirapuram-ghaziabad-uttar-pradesh-c589521.html

http://www.consumercourt.in/society/20473-wrong-committments-incompleted-jobs-flat.html